Comments on: CRB trial and identity cards http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/ Sarah and Alaric Snell-Pym living in interesting times Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:33:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5 By: alaric http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46218 alaric Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:55:19 +0000 http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46218 <p>Interesting... I didn't know CRB checks were so widespread! I'd heard of them being done for teachers and Scout leaders, where confirming you don't have a relevant criminal record seems fair enough, since you are left in a position of power over lots of children (and, more subtly, you get to handle a lot of personal information about them; my records include all sorts of information that I could probably make a lot of money selling to paedophiles to use in working their way into parents and children's trusts.</p> <p>But cricket umpires and library book deliverers? Hmmf. Looks to me like arse-covering. If somebody in such a situation <em>did</em> do something untoward, then the organisation could use the fact they did CRB checks to protect themselves. "But but but the <em>government</em> said she was <em>nice</em>..."</p> Interesting... I didn't know CRB checks were so widespread! I'd heard of them being done for teachers and Scout leaders, where confirming you don't have a relevant criminal record seems fair enough, since you are left in a position of power over lots of children (and, more subtly, you get to handle a lot of personal information about them; my records include all sorts of information that I could probably make a lot of money selling to paedophiles to use in working their way into parents and children's trusts.

But cricket umpires and library book deliverers? Hmmf. Looks to me like arse-covering. If somebody in such a situation did do something untoward, then the organisation could use the fact they did CRB checks to protect themselves. "But but but the government said she was nice..."

]]> By: David Cantrell http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46134 David Cantrell Wed, 27 Jun 2007 22:04:25 +0000 http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46134 <p>The biggest problem with the CRB checks isn't that nasty people might get through, but that nice people will be offended at the notion that they have to be checked, and so refuse to go through with it. <a href="http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/journal/index.pl/id_wont-you-think-of-the-children" rel="nofollow">This is already happening</a>. And no amount of fiddling with the process will fix what is a fundamentally anti-civil idea.</p> The biggest problem with the CRB checks isn't that nasty people might get through, but that nice people will be offended at the notion that they have to be checked, and so refuse to go through with it. This is already happening. And no amount of fiddling with the process will fix what is a fundamentally anti-civil idea.

]]> By: sarah http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46004 sarah Wed, 27 Jun 2007 08:22:15 +0000 http://www.snell-pym.org.uk/archives/2007/06/26/crb-trial-and-identity-cards/#comment-46004 <p>Oh Alaric you are lovely - you just made me cry cos I know you mean that, any child in your care is an extremely lucky child as far as I'm concerned.</p> Oh Alaric you are lovely - you just made me cry cos I know you mean that, any child in your care is an extremely lucky child as far as I'm concerned.

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